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phantom padding issues

I'm sure I'm missing or misinterpreting the impact of certain settings, sorry, still trying to learn and wrap my head around muffin builder and the theme options.

I get this extra phantom padding above and below the text in this section (see attached image). as far as I'm concerned at the moment there should be no more tan 40px above and below that text. of course I will pad that out a bit but the fact that I can't get it to be zero or equivalent to zero as a starting point has me pulling my hair out haha.

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